>,Corel can't scale the type (horz or vert) like Illustrator can. You'd have >,to take it apart (off the circle) and scale the text before putting on the >,circle. Everything else can be done step for step. >, >, It must be a lot different on PC. I would guarantee output on Mac with >, >, no qualms. I don't know if I could with Illustrator though. I've not >, >, seen Corel since 5 but I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole since my >, >, last experience. >, it is. At least for now. This is one of the areas where it's just plain >, easier on a Mac platform. Print is generally easier becasue 9/10 of SBs >, have Mac imagesetters and Mac operators, because the entire industry was >, mac dominated for so long. >, >, That's exactly what most people do in practicality on Mac with >, >, Illustrator from what I can gather. I would rate FreeHand & Quark as the >, >, easiest programs to output from. >, uh, I dunno what most people do, but I was at three different >, studios/illustration houses with our own imagesetters and we ran film from >, Illustrator daily. >, I still think it's easier to run film from Freehand but we did it every >, damn day from Illustrator. Even thru that weird angular Separator thing. >, You're right, Quark is best though. Somebody else mentioned they didn't think Quark was the best interface which I think is probably right but it is very very consistent once you've grasped the way it works. >, I understand that everyone has their favorite programs, but come on, all >, of these have their good and bad points. The Corel install scenario could >, be better. A lesser evil I could live with. Take a job (Illustrator 7.0) from the PC platform and move it to a Mac. Take all the PC fonts used in the PC job and put them in Illustrators internal fonts folder on the Mac. Restart Illustrator, open the PC job on the Mac and see what happens. >, This feature has been in Corel since I started using it (V4) and allows >, greater flexibility than you've shown in illustrator: >, - Draw your circle/ squiggly line/ any shape you want >, - Type in the text (any font/size) >, - Select both >, - Rollup-Fit text to path >, - Chose whether the baseline of the letters runs with the line, or >, remain horizontal... >, - Chose whether the text should run through the centre of the line, top, >, bottom... >, - Chose which quadrant of the circle you want the text on (if circle) >, - Chose any offset or distance from path >, - Change the point size of the text and kerning to suit (any changes made >, keep the text with the path specified) <,Ctrl-Shift-T>, >, - Format the text (selecting the two T's) and change the spacing of >, characters (% of space width or any standard units) <,Ctrl-T>, Again, any >, changes keep the text along the path. >, - Move individual letters however you want by node-editing. >, Quite right. So the fake styles on Freehand's type menu are only here to >, remind you that Freehand's type menu is not for professionals? I wrote the other book in the series and agree with you completely. During the proofing stages I circled every single one of these and sent long notes to the publisher. They just don't care so please let Osborne know as they won't listen to their authors. -- Foster D. Coburn III Unleashed Productions, Inc. http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more Following your directions exactly: with the lock on it scales the text proportionately which is not what we did in the Illustrator example. With the lock off it distorts the text on the arc into an ugly mess. Anyway, each of the programs can do something the others can't. Let's see how long this 'my* is bigger than yours' thread gets. >, Take a job (Illustrator 7.0) from the PC platform and move it to a Mac. >, Take all the PC fonts used in the PC job and put them in Illustrators internal >, fonts folder on the Mac. Restart Illustrator, open the PC job on the Mac and see >, what happens. why dont you run the seagull (if you know what that is) or the smiley (if you know what that is) and then tell me it doesnt change the bass or treble. >, >, Take a job (Illustrator 7.0) from the PC platform and move it to a Mac. >, >, Take all the PC fonts used in the PC job and put them in Illustrators internal >, >, fonts folder on the Mac. Restart Illustrator, open the PC job on the Mac and see >, >, what happens. Source.